Thread: Expat in Indo? How?

Hinakos,

You guys worry too much. Just think about it for a minute. When your girl friend arrives with her group at Indonesian emigration, what distinguishes her from any other member of this group? Answer: nothing. She will get a VOA as any other member of the said group. So what in the world would prompt an immigration officer to question her about her reason(s) for coming to Indonesia, more than any other member of the group?

You guys worry too much.

Many people don't worry about this, until they get caught. :shock: I think you really need to be careful about this. All it would take is disgruntled out of tour guide to report the "tour leader" to immigration.

Of course she could claim to just be a tour member, but I am sure she would be carrying things like guest lists and itineraries.

spicyayam,

Everything is possible. However, if the tour leader does not reside and is not working in Indonesia for a salary paid by an Indonesian tour company, he/she is not violating the terms of a VOA (by the way, every tour member carries a tour itinerary and the list of the fellow travelers).

If he/she resides temporarily in Indonesia, he/she is most likely on another type of visa which make his/her stay in the country legal. For example, a business visa, which does not allow one to work in the country, nevertheless allows one to come to Indonesia for the purpose of meeting with Indonesian business subcontractors and/or partners (in this case, tour operators), survey old and new domestic destinations, organize itineraries, etc, activities which facilitate one's work in one's home country of employment. It's the same thing for people engaged in exporting products from Indonesia, or doing a business which involves Indonesians workers. I know for a fact that many exporters do not bother with a business visa but many also operate legally in Indonesia with it. This is exactly why the business visa was created.

No, not a teacher. Not sure what gave you that impression :) I am not even in Bali (yet) but I will be there in a couple of weeks.

Hi buddy,
I do some business development (computers), besides that I help ( not getting paid for it) several Balinese people setting up their own little businesses, anything from a little warung to helping someone setting up exports of clothes to foreign markets.
Besides that I give soccerpractice at the SPNI (Sekolah Polisi Negara Indonesia - Police-Academy) and give some fire-arms training at the TNI (Army).
Friendly greetings.........Gilbert.

Hi Buddy,
I am married to a lovely indonesian woman and I am the father of three marvellous kids (2 boys and one girl). :D
In Indonesia, I mainly invest money and give advise to my wife on how to run her company. Beside it, my professional life is spent in between Thailand and Europe where I have businesses in the trade and Import/Export sectors.
I spend a bit of my free time participating in indonesian or expat forums where I usually like to participate in threads about business or law.
I don't live in Bali, nor I intend to live there... :wink: I prefer more secluded areas where I hardly come accross bule. :D