best place to open a restaurant in bali?

**ali alavi** · 18-02-2010 04:55 AM

Hi everyone,

I'm fairly new here. I have a few questions regarding opening a restaurant business in Bali.

I've heard that the Kutah beach is the best place to open one since its the most populated area on the island.

I have no idea about the shop rentals in bali and if what I've been told is true or not. I already know the difficulties surrounding investment possibilities in Indonesia and Bali, but if you guys could be kind enough to give me a few tips regarding the shop rentals, and the high seasons and the low season on the island I'll be grateful.

Best regards,

Ali

**Nakal** · 18-02-2010 07:04 AM

I suggest you go to Bali and have a look yourself.

Not to sound very blunt but if you have to ask this kind of question on a public forum you might as well transfer your money directly into my BCA account.

Buy a ticket and go there, and go again and again until you found out you will never beat the harsh competition unless you are willing to work your butt off for a penny.

Good luck!

**tintin** · 18-02-2010 09:00 AM

I second Nakal's suggestion. Come on, Ali, would you just walk in a place like Hawaii or Jamaica, and pretend,of all things, to open a restaurant,? Obviously, a troller...

**bolli** · 18-02-2010 09:01 AM

And I think you should spend a month eating in as many restaurants as possible, looking at what works and what there is too much of.I cannot fathom why so many posters on another Bali forum put as high priorty.. "Aussie owned and Aussie food"
Look at what is not there and think about what food you can serve that is different, there are restaurants closing every month in Kuta, you need to be competitive and offer something unique.
You also need to understand the pitfalls of owning a business in Bali, speak to other expats who run restaurants, it is difficult to say the least.

**lumumba** · 18-02-2010 12:25 PM

Ali Alavi wrote:I've heard that the Kutah beach is the best place to open one since its the most populated area on the island.

It is also the most populated with restaurants, night clubs, fast food etc, etc.

Tourist season: Bali can get packed in July -August and again around Christmas and New Year's.
Australians also visit during school holidays in early April, late June and late September. Indonesians visit during national holidays.

Outside these peaks, Bali can be surprisingly quiet and good discounts on accommodation are
often available.

NORMAL SEASON: Feb – Jun Oct - Nov
HIGH SEASON: Jul - Sep
PEAK SEASON: Dec – Jan

April-October dry season and November-March rain season

**ali alavi** · 18-02-2010 09:18 PM

Thanks guys,

It seems that I have to travel to Bali to see for myself first hand. Actually the type of restaurant I'm planning to open is not operating anywhere in Bali. But I can't be sure since I have got this info
on websites promoting Bali.

By what you're saying lumumba Bali has an occupancy rate of about 70% (average) 5 months of the year and the rest of the year this climbs down to between 20-50%. Still it shouldn't be that bad?

Bolli, TinTin and Nakal, competition is everywhere but I take your word for it since Bali is a highly regarded holiday destination and F&B is one of the services provided to the holiday makers it is tough out there.

Is there any expats on this forum who actually owns a restaurant business in Bali? If so please give me a few pointers on the competition, suppliers of food materials etc.

**mimpimanis** · 18-02-2010 09:41 PM

Is there any expats on this forum who actually owns a restaurant business in Bali? If so please give me a few pointers on the competition, suppliers of food materials etc.

I am imaging that is there are - they will want to keep any gems to themselves.

**Nakal** · 18-02-2010 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by ali alavi

Is there any expats on this forum who actually owns a restaurant business in Bali? If so please give me a few pointers on the competition, suppliers of food materials etc.

My sister does but she is not located in the southern area although she is married to a Balinese man. Even for her it is very difficult to make a living running a restaurant/cafe.
Even if you want to go through with this don't expect to get rich of it and make sure to have some deep pockets the first 5 years.

**ali alavi** · 18-02-2010 10:16 PM

Thanks again guys,

What amazes me after reading your feedback is then who is making money serving food to all the hungry tourists? after all they have to eat somewhere. Where do they eat?

Either the tourists buy eggs and take back to their hotels and have eggs for as long as they're staying in Bali, or there must be something horribly wrong with the food service?

This is really mind boggling. I should most definitely come for a visit before I make my move.

Once again thanks guys, means a lot

**spicyayam** · 19-02-2010 07:11 AM

I think people are saying it's not impossible to make money with a restaurant, it's just not easy. If you already have a restaurant Ali, maybe you have some proven concepts that might work in Bali. Kuta is famous for Aussie tourists who come to Bali for a cheap holiday. I know it is hard to say before you actually come here, but who or what is your target market you have in mind?

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