You cannot extend a 60 day tourist visa period. You can with a sosial budaya visa make 4 x 1 month extensions to the original 2 months but you will need a sponsor.
Many articles on visa's in the archives.
It looks like there are many options for staying long-term in Bali...here is my plan.
I am going to be in Sg for a few days anyway, so I will use an agent there to get a 60 day tourist visa. I will get this extended to six months and do it again.
My questions:
theoretically (or practically) how many times will I be able to do this?
Will agents help me extend the tourist visa (they advertise extending social visas only)?
And finally, is there a better way to go about a long term stay in Bali? Or am I on the right track?
You cannot extend a 60 day tourist visa period. You can with a sosial budaya visa make 4 x 1 month extensions to the original 2 months but you will need a sponsor.
Many articles on visa's in the archives.
Regards Jimbo
I was under the impression that I could extend based on what I found in the archives:
From Visa - no clue how this system works
This is what I'm trying to clarify. From that post, it sounds like extending a 60 day tourist visa is easier and less pressure on the sponsor. The sosial budaya seems to really put sponsors into the system.
I plan on using a Sg agent; if the agent will act as my sponsor for the sosial budaya, I may as well do that. If they won't, I think starting with the tourist and trying to extend it (assuming it's possible) might be better.
I really have searched the archives and there is a lot of conflicting info. I tend to think this reflects the Indonesian system, which is conflicting,lol.
If someone would explain the least troublesome ways for a single guy to stay in Bali, for let's say a year, I would really appreciate it!
The law says no. I am not saying it has never been done but the law says no. The confusion arises because both are a 211 visa but a social buday has the name of the sponsor written on the visa. You can try it but be prepared for a whole lot of trouble if some Immigration officer decides you are just the person to pay for his new !!!!
You asked for advice and I am giving it. A singapore agent will be no good in extending your visa has this has to be done in country and you could end up in Sh1t creek without a paddle.
Regards Jimbo
According to the Indonesian embassy here in Norway, is a tourist visa as follows:
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Tourist
Tourist visa is given to person who intend to have a holiday or leisure purpose in Indonesia with a maximum stay of 60 (sixty) days and cannot be extended. A single entry tourist visa is valid if presented within 3 (three) months from the date of issuence.
This type of visa will also be granted to persons who employed in the tourism area (to arrange and accompany a tourist group, to promote tourism in Indonesia, etc). Tourist visa is not a working visa and cannot be converted into any other type of visa
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Follow the rules, so you avoid unpleasantness
Ok, now it makes more sense. I don't want to be in some grey area of the law, I prefer to follow it. I also don't want to buy any government officials anything! :)
So, I think what I'll do is this. I am from a country where I can get the 30 days for $25 and extend another 30. I'll do that first, then assuming I REALLY want to stay longer, I will do the sosial budaya visa via a Singapore agent and extend as needed.
Thanks, that was very helpful and I get it :)
You can get a singapore agent to get the social budaya visa IF you have an Indonesian sponsor. Take my advice and get a 60 day tourist visa in your home country as it is much easier than extending a 30 day Visa on Arrival.
Good Luck.
Regards Jimbo
You CAN get a 60 day tourist visa, which CAN be extended 4 x 30 days whilst in Indonesia, which is what I am doing. My 4th extension is right now being done by an agent (because I am too lazy to spend time at immigration).
This is NOT a social visa, and does NOT have a sponsor name on it. However, when you extend the visa here in Bali you do need a sponsor. For the 2nd extension I had to go to immigration with my agent, and had photo and fingerprints taken. The 3rd and 4th extension does not require your presence at immigration if you use an agent. Of course, if you want to save money, and you would like a taste of Indonesian bureaucracy, you can do it yourself. BUT be prepared to visit immigration more than once to achive your goal.
Immigration are treating this as Sosbud visa possibly because your agent is bribing someone to do so. The law says you cannot extend a tourist visa.
Regards Jimbo