+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 36

Thread: What has happened to Bali?

  1. #21
    Addicted mimpimanis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Kuta, Lombok
    Posts
    2,078

    Default Re: What has happened to Bali?

    I dont know about The Gilis but I do know in Kuta (Lombok) there is an effort to clean up. Locals and tourists alike. Infact there are two Canadian girls that have been in jail, for about 5 months now, awaiting trial.
    http://www.mimpimanis.com/

  2. #22
    Regular
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Jln Tambayong, sebelah kanan.
    Posts
    210

    Default Re: What has happened to Bali?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dasha
    “As far as I know, they will (if not done already) go after them.As far as I know, they will (if not done already) go after them.”

    Ive got news for you Ka Bim… they won’t.

    You have as much chance of getting busted on Gili T as you have of winning Tatslotto!!

    Ever been there? It’s location makes it just about impossible for anyone, Indonesian official no matter how official, to go unnoticed by locals. Like all drug infested locations across the world, the supply goes underground when any suspicious dudes arrive. How stupid do you think Indonesian dealers are? Next one - how many busts occur there? Makes you wonder sometimes just WHO is running the show out there on that small chain of islands i spose.

    Check it out for yourself next time you head to Nth West Lombok – it’s choca block! Pot heads galore – no cops. Been that way for years.

    “usually do a great job” – you gotta be kidding right? :shock:
    Quite funny to read...Thanks for the laugh :D

    FYI:
    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009 ... dy039.html
    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009 ... stody.html
    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2006 ... drugs.html

    It has just took me 2 minutes to dig it out...
    SI TOU TIMOU TUMOU TOU

  3. #23
    Addicted gilbert de jong's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Panji, Singaraja.
    Posts
    2,021

    Default Re: What has happened to Bali?

    Hello y'all,

    To start of on a funny note....
    Quote Originally Posted by Anton
    Ok they smoked the stuff but didnt bill clinton admit to having a puff !
    Yeah he did, but he said he didn't inhale :wink: :lol: .
    Kabim wrote in his first post here about a guy that got caught at the airport with 4 kg of hash, and doing a lifesentence for it, he was what is called a mule..and a small fish (guppie). Being a foreigner is why it has been covered by the media so extensive. Same goes for the other people he mentions.
    Quote Originally Posted by KaBIm
    As far as I know, they will (if not done already) go after them. BNN (Badan Narkotika Nasional) usually do a great job and it has means (material and financial) that most of the other sections of the police just don't have. It is quite easy for them to catch fishes (small or big) all over Indonesia.
    hihihi, wonder who provides them with their resources, to catch those little fishies :wink: .
    It's all about keeping up apearances to the outside world, if you (no one in particular) understand what I mean?
    As for going after the sellers a personal story...
    A Balinese friend of mine, convicted for 3 years because having 10 grams of 'buds' (not budweiser :lol: ) was initialy not arrested but beaten to a pulp for info where he bought it, he gave up the name and adress of the low-level dealer who got busted too, because of that. So if they (the police) have info they will pursue that.
    Don't know about the gilli island, but as small as those Islands are, business can't be big :lol: .
    But higher up the ladder then the 'Mule' or little house dealer it will rarely go, big fish are more affraid of being eaten by a bigger fish then the police.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dasha
    How stupid do you think Indonesian dealers are?
    hmmm, very stupid.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dasha
    Makes you wonder sometimes just WHO is running the show out there on that small chain of islands i spose.
    Not only those little Islands.

    Quote Originally Posted by Markit
    Is it because drug cases often have no clear cut victim and/or perpetrator as do murder cases?
    I am wondering how they would handle a murder in the drugs-scene :lol: :lol: . Just joking Markit...wanted to end the way I begun this post, on a happy note...
    Friendly greetings, Gilbert.
    don't read between the lines..i think the words are clear enough...:)

  4. #24
    Regular
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Mornington Peninsula Melbourne
    Posts
    479

    Default Re: What has happened to Bali?

    Didn’t think it was a laughing matter. Two in jail in Indonesia for drugs… what’s the laugh?

    Point is …to say that someone is going to clean up the drug mess out on the Gilis is ridiculous. And to say some big-time official from the government will do something about is just as ludicrous.

    Quote again “I am always amazed to read very negative input based on assumptions by people with no or poor knowledge of the Indonesian judicial system.”

    I am always amazed at people who know very little about regions in Indonesia.

    If you asked who are the BNN (Badan Narkotika Nasional) to any dealer out there, they would simply laugh at you.

    And regarding your 3 links… are you for real? There are kilos of dope on tap ( not quality funnily enough).. and the best the so called BNN (Badan Narkotika Nasional) can do is a few grams huh? Come on man . West Nusa Tengara is not Gili Trawangan either.

    Sorry Mimp you are right – you don’t know about what is going on up North. Maybe you should vist now and again too!

    Like I say, ever been there KB?

    Sorry KaBim you are out of your depth on this one. Might want to just focus on things Baliwise hey? For which you will have no argument here.

    Hope that helps. :D

  5. #25
    Regular
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Jln Tambayong, sebelah kanan.
    Posts
    210

    Default Re: What has happened to Bali?

    Quote Originally Posted by gilbert de jong
    Kabim wrote in his first post here about a guy that got caught at the airport with 4 kg of hash, and doing a lifesentence for it, he was what is called a mule..and a small fish (guppie). Being a foreigner is why it has been covered by the media so extensive. Same goes for the other people he mentions.
    7 of the 9 ossies arrested in the Bali 9 where nothing more than mules, IMHO. However the french guy was not. He was, let's say, a small entrepreneur expecting do make some extra bucks back from a trip to India.
    However, I definitively agree with you about the relation you made in between extensive coverage and being a foreigner.
    It also helps some, in this country, who like to make believe that the drug problem come from outsiders.
    Quote Originally Posted by KaBIm
    As for going after the sellers a personal story... So if they (the police) have info they will pursue that.
    Exactly my point.
    Quote Originally Posted by KaBIm
    But higher up the ladder then the 'Mule' or little house dealer it will rarely go, big fish are more affraid of being eaten by a bigger fish then the police.
    Everyweek or so, mules get busted at soekarno hatta. Though I agree with you, sometimes the big fishes get away, it is not rare that they finally get caught. Quite a few high profile cases involving international ring got dismantled in the past few years. Aside of it, I believe that many get "protected" due to the level of corruption to be found in the indonesian police.
    When I was stressing the fact that "BNN usually do a great job", I was talking about their ability to strike when they have informations. They are quick, certainly not without brutality, to obtain confessions and proofs.
    SI TOU TIMOU TUMOU TOU

  6. #26
    Regular
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Jln Tambayong, sebelah kanan.
    Posts
    210

    Default Re: What has happened to Bali?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dasha
    Point is …to say that someone is going to clean up the drug mess out on the Gilis is ridiculous.
    Did I say so? Why do you talk about Gili? The two swedes got caught in Bali after having bought 20 joints in Kuta Lombok. I still don't understand why you seem to persist on talking about Gili...
    Quote Originally Posted by Dasha
    If you asked who are the BNN (Badan Narkotika Nasional) to any dealer out there, they would simply laugh at you.
    I believe you have done the experience... :D
    I would like you to tell m if they still laugh when they get caught... Just wondering. :roll:
    Quote Originally Posted by Dasha
    West Nusa Tengara is not Gili Trawangan either.
    It's not, you're right... as well as Gili is not the topic of the OP or the thread...
    SI TOU TIMOU TUMOU TOU

  7. #27
    Regular
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Mornington Peninsula Melbourne
    Posts
    479

    Default Re: What has happened to Bali?

    The men told officials they had bought 20 marijuana cigarettes for Rp. 400,000 (US$36) on Gili island, near Lombok from a tour guide.

    gotta follow the thread young man! :D

  8. #28
    Regular
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Jln Tambayong, sebelah kanan.
    Posts
    210

    Default Re: What has happened to Bali?

    Check your source, sayang:

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009 ... ssion.html

    Head of drug division Sr. Comr. Kokot Indarto said the suspects, Kjell Avald Holst, 25, and Karl John Bronell, 26, told police they spent the first week in Lombok Island, West Nusa Tenggara, and bought 20 marijuana cigarettes from a stranger in Kuta beach.

    Antara, Detik and Kompas report the same story... :wink:

    But thanks to call me young man... :D
    This post will end my participation in this thread.
    SI TOU TIMOU TUMOU TOU

  9. #29
    Addicted gilbert de jong's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Panji, Singaraja.
    Posts
    2,021

    Default Re: What has happened to Bali?

    Dasha...maybe you should get some anti-slip tiles for the bathroom :lol: :lol: .

    Kabim, any person transporting dope on his body or luggage is a mule, and is being used by the middle-management to get product from place A to B. just as an example...sometimes on the same plane are two mules, person one carries 1 kilo and the other 5 kilo...a phonecall is made to the authorities complete with name and seatnumber of person 1, whilest in the confusion of arresting person 1, person 2 is hardly checked cause the lack of attention at that moment. Somewhat the same with sea-freight containers, one shipment is given up for the other to pass through.
    Add to that fact the corruption level in Indonesia, the many seaports, i'm sure it can be very lucrative, however I wouldn't wanted to get caught with my pants down, and I make enough money in a varely 'legal' way. Although it's 'legal' back in Holland, one does have to get in to the country in a non-legal way :roll: .
    It amazes me that they still use the airports instead of the fisherboats that can make offshore meetings, if you know what I mean?

    To end it on a happy note again,,,Dasha asked "what's the laugh" Exactly that and for those two stupid tourist....smoking in a hotelroom, and then get caught, too stupid or just too stoned...either way, it's funny.
    don't read between the lines..i think the words are clear enough...:)

  10. #30
    Regular
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Mornington Peninsula Melbourne
    Posts
    479

    Default Re: What has happened to Bali?

    That's cool KaBim - good luck there on the drugs crusade, but i don't agree that the cops at any level do a good job on it here in Indo. Probably anywhere for that matter!

    Money and corruption rule unfortunately.

    It's just a shame that 2 young men have to do this kind of time for something very silly. And I know rules are rules ... but it is a such a shame.

    cheers mate

    Dasha :D

+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Hey Pooochie! What Happened....
    By Roy in forum Bali Expat Forum
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 11-11-2005, 12:10 PM
  2. What happened to my posting on KKB?
    By in forum Bali Travel Forum
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 24-07-2005, 05:39 PM
  3. What happened to the Bali Nuts Forum
    By yang peduli in forum Bali Expat Forum
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 04-05-2004, 09:57 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts