Thread: What has happened to Bali?

Originally Posted by Dasha

“As far as I know, they will (if not done already) go after them.As far as I know, they will (if not done already) go after them.”

Ive got news for you Ka Bim… they won’t.

You have as much chance of getting busted on Gili T as you have of winning Tatslotto!!

Ever been there? It’s location makes it just about impossible for anyone, Indonesian official no matter how official, to go unnoticed by locals. Like all drug infested locations across the world, the supply goes underground when any suspicious dudes arrive. How stupid do you think Indonesian dealers are? Next one - how many busts occur there? Makes you wonder sometimes just WHO is running the show out there on that small chain of islands i spose.

Check it out for yourself next time you head to Nth West Lombok – it’s choca block! Pot heads galore – no cops. Been that way for years.

“usually do a great job” – you gotta be kidding right? :shock:

Quite funny to read...Thanks for the laugh :D

FYI:
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009 ... dy039.html
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009 ... stody.html
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2006 ... drugs.html

It has just took me 2 minutes to dig it out...

Hello y'all,

To start of on a funny note....

Originally Posted by Anton

Ok they smoked the stuff but didnt bill clinton admit to having a puff !

Yeah he did, but he said he didn't inhale :wink: :lol: .
Kabim wrote in his first post here about a guy that got caught at the airport with 4 kg of hash, and doing a lifesentence for it, he was what is called a mule..and a small fish (guppie). Being a foreigner is why it has been covered by the media so extensive. Same goes for the other people he mentions.

Originally Posted by KaBIm

As far as I know, they will (if not done already) go after them. BNN (Badan Narkotika Nasional) usually do a great job and it has means (material and financial) that most of the other sections of the police just don't have. It is quite easy for them to catch fishes (small or big) all over Indonesia.

hihihi, wonder who provides them with their resources, to catch those little fishies :wink: .
It's all about keeping up apearances to the outside world, if you (no one in particular) understand what I mean?
As for going after the sellers a personal story...
A Balinese friend of mine, convicted for 3 years because having 10 grams of 'buds' (not budweiser :lol: ) was initialy not arrested but beaten to a pulp for info where he bought it, he gave up the name and adress of the low-level dealer who got busted too, because of that. So if they (the police) have info they will pursue that.
Don't know about the gilli island, but as small as those Islands are, business can't be big :lol: .
But higher up the ladder then the 'Mule' or little house dealer it will rarely go, big fish are more affraid of being eaten by a bigger fish then the police.

Originally Posted by Dasha

How stupid do you think Indonesian dealers are?

hmmm, very stupid.

Originally Posted by Dasha

Makes you wonder sometimes just WHO is running the show out there on that small chain of islands i spose.

Not only those little Islands.

Originally Posted by Markit

Is it because drug cases often have no clear cut victim and/or perpetrator as do murder cases?

I am wondering how they would handle a murder in the drugs-scene :lol: :lol: . Just joking Markit...wanted to end the way I begun this post, on a happy note...
Friendly greetings, Gilbert.

Originally Posted by gilbert de jong

Kabim wrote in his first post here about a guy that got caught at the airport with 4 kg of hash, and doing a lifesentence for it, he was what is called a mule..and a small fish (guppie). Being a foreigner is why it has been covered by the media so extensive. Same goes for the other people he mentions.

7 of the 9 ossies arrested in the Bali 9 where nothing more than mules, IMHO. However the french guy was not. He was, let's say, a small entrepreneur expecting do make some extra bucks back from a trip to India.
However, I definitively agree with you about the relation you made in between extensive coverage and being a foreigner.
It also helps some, in this country, who like to make believe that the drug problem come from outsiders.

Originally Posted by KaBIm

As for going after the sellers a personal story... So if they (the police) have info they will pursue that.

Exactly my point.

Originally Posted by KaBIm

But higher up the ladder then the 'Mule' or little house dealer it will rarely go, big fish are more affraid of being eaten by a bigger fish then the police.

Everyweek or so, mules get busted at soekarno hatta. Though I agree with you, sometimes the big fishes get away, it is not rare that they finally get caught. Quite a few high profile cases involving international ring got dismantled in the past few years. Aside of it, I believe that many get "protected" due to the level of corruption to be found in the indonesian police.
When I was stressing the fact that "BNN usually do a great job", I was talking about their ability to strike when they have informations. They are quick, certainly not without brutality, to obtain confessions and proofs.

Originally Posted by Dasha

Point is …to say that someone is going to clean up the drug mess out on the Gilis is ridiculous.

Did I say so? Why do you talk about Gili? The two swedes got caught in Bali after having bought 20 joints in Kuta Lombok. I still don't understand why you seem to persist on talking about Gili...

Originally Posted by Dasha

If you asked who are the BNN (Badan Narkotika Nasional) to any dealer out there, they would simply laugh at you.

I believe you have done the experience... :D
I would like you to tell m if they still laugh when they get caught... Just wondering. :roll:

Originally Posted by Dasha

West Nusa Tengara is not Gili Trawangan either.

It's not, you're right... as well as Gili is not the topic of the OP or the thread...

Check your source, sayang:

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009 ... ssion.html

Head of drug division Sr. Comr. Kokot Indarto said the suspects, Kjell Avald Holst, 25, and Karl John Bronell, 26, told police they spent the first week in Lombok Island, West Nusa Tenggara, and bought 20 marijuana cigarettes from a stranger in Kuta beach.

Antara, Detik and Kompas report the same story... :wink:

But thanks to call me young man... :D
This post will end my participation in this thread.

Dasha...maybe you should get some anti-slip tiles for the bathroom :lol: :lol: .

Kabim, any person transporting dope on his body or luggage is a mule, and is being used by the middle-management to get product from place A to B. just as an example...sometimes on the same plane are two mules, person one carries 1 kilo and the other 5 kilo...a phonecall is made to the authorities complete with name and seatnumber of person 1, whilest in the confusion of arresting person 1, person 2 is hardly checked cause the lack of attention at that moment. Somewhat the same with sea-freight containers, one shipment is given up for the other to pass through.
Add to that fact the corruption level in Indonesia, the many seaports, i'm sure it can be very lucrative, however I wouldn't wanted to get caught with my pants down, and I make enough money in a varely 'legal' way. Although it's 'legal' back in Holland, one does have to get in to the country in a non-legal way :roll: .
It amazes me that they still use the airports instead of the fisherboats that can make offshore meetings, if you know what I mean?

To end it on a happy note again,,,Dasha asked "what's the laugh" Exactly that and for those two stupid tourist....smoking in a hotelroom, and then get caught, too stupid or just too stoned...either way, it's funny.