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    Historically US presidents have the first 100 days to "prove" themselves in the job before political infighting and party political allegiances take over and make any consensus difficult, if not impossible.

    Having said that Obama has some truly huge mountains to climb with the financial crisis but balanced against that are the "slack" the rest of the world will give him merely for not being GWB :lol:

    I have always (nearly) been massively disappointed in what the US presidents have promised and actually delivered with one major exception (Clinton was a minor one). That was Jimmy Carter - a "born again" religious peanut farmer turned out to be a visionary leader with, unfortunately, too many idealistic programs for his party and the US (and an idiot brother). The advance of time has only added to his stature.

    Give Obama some time.

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    Hey Gilbert,

    Where was this mistake 'ignored'? It was a headline on every news organization out there! And of course he'll make more mistakes, after all he's human (and not the second coming as some might believe ;-)) You make mistakes too, right? For a president, as long as the mistakes are not willful nor significant, we should cut him some slack, and this one was neither. He chose a very qualified candidate for the job, but the vetting process failed. In fact it's not really his own mistake, but he stood up and said 'the buck stops with me'. What more can you want from a President? Now he'll nominate someone else and you won't even notice...

    And what was the initial reason for Iraq, if it wasn't WMD? After all, the reason Bush gave the UN was WMD... Did W have another reason he didn't want to tell us about?

    And for achievements, just try a different news source... Obama has got more done in his first two weeks than any other president in living memory, it's just that Fox doesn't like to talk about it!

    Cheers!

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    Sorry to say it wasn't a headline on every news organization. I use MSN as my homepage and the day before Daschle removed himself they had a headline saying how smooth Obama's first days were going.

    How is a person very qualified but poorly vetted? If they have ethical issues then they are not qualified. And which candidate are you talking about? Geithner? Killefer? Solis? Daschle? Richardson? All of these have withdrawn other than Geithner and most people here feel he should have.
    Obama is doing the best he can but to say that he has done more in 2 weeks makes me question where YOU are getting your information.

    The republicans are giving Obama the same amount of slack the democrats gave Bush...not much.
    That's politics...

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    Hi ...
    "You make mistakes too, right?" Probably I do, but not an entire nation depends on me, ofcourse he's only human, and i give him some slack.

    "And what was the initial reason for Iraq, if it wasn't WMD? After all, the reason Bush gave the UN was WMD... Did W have another reason he didn't want to tell us about?" 9/11 rings a bell, I think Irak was what the country wanted and needed...a visible enemy. At the beginning there was nothing then support for the war, even when the given reason to the U.N. turned out to be a wrong one.

    "And for achievements, just try a different news source... Obama has got more done in his first two weeks than any other president in living memory, it's just that Fox doesn't like to talk about it!" for your information, CNN tells the same story on their site as fox:wink: .

    Once again, I agree we should be patient with Obama, but done more in two weeks then any other president?? think thats a little "overboard".
    Friendly greetings....Gilbert.
    don't read between the lines..i think the words are clear enough...:)

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    Jimmy Carter
    Jimmy Carters main attribute was that he was and is an honest man. I do not think however this helped him to become a good president. Never the less I like and admire him.
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    Jeez Jimbo, you want more from a president than honesty?

    That's asking for a whole lot more than I've seen in all the presidents, prime ministers and premieres in the 50 years and from what I can read since the time of Abraham Lincoln, supposedly the last honest president.

    And look what happened to him.

    For me I guess plain old honesty will do.

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    It is obvious to me that if honesty was the only criterion Jimmy would have achieved so much more than he did. Unfortunately you cannot always tell the truth and that has proved to be the case.
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    Jimbo you are undoubtedly right concerning Jimmy's achievements and frankly I can't remember that many of them.

    For God's sake it was the 80s and I still had hair :lol:

    I can just about remember this thing I did with twisting my head quickly to flip the hair out of my eyes - haven't needed that one in quite a while now - hell, if I tried it now I'd probably put my back out.

    How's the search for land going?

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    I am on a plane tomorrow night to start the journey. 51 hours to get there and then a wedding 2 days later. After that it starts in earnest.

    As for Hair I was fine in the early 80's but then it went down hill after that. Hair receeded and stomach protruded :D Part of my ritire is devoted to getting fit :D
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    Good for you, Florida is full of fit retirees (not!) As I said to Bert in another string "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" - hell, I'm beginning to sound like a believer :evil:

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