Thread: US Elections

I am amazed at the amount of vitriol spewed here...
Thorsten, are you calling me a dumb ass? For POSTING what people are saying here in the U.S.? I think I have been very clear that I am TELLING YOU WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE! NOT WHAT I BELIEVE. I HAVE STATED THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

This time I will state my views. The U.S. is not the worst country in the world. Does it have faults? Yes. Am I happy with George Bush, NO! Is Obama the change people are looking for? NO. Is Palin? NO. Am I happy with the choices? NO. Do the Republicans want to kill foreigners? NO. Do the Democrats hate america? No. Are there good people on both sides? Yes. Are people who don't agree with me dumbasses? No. Do some people piss me off? Yes.Tintin did last year. Do I have good friends that I disagree with politically? Yes. Roy, my best man at my wedding. The friends I took to Bali last year.
So I think what you all want is for me to say is this. So I will say it. You are all right. George Bush really is Satan, if you shaved his head you will find 666. The U.S. is the worst offender in the world and we should bow to the world's public opinion when chosing a president. The communist counties are much better and the U.S. should have pursued communism instead of democracy. The U.S. caused all the wars since it's existence. They have never done anything good...There you go. I beg your forgiveness. I was blinded because I have lived with the savages of Iowa too long, call it a type of Stockholm syndrome. Your insults against my neighbors, country and myself have made me see the light. Your persuasive ability is no longer suspect. I once was Saul but now I am Paul. Thank you all.

Don't worry guys...If and probably when McCain gets elected you can continue to believe your reasons why Obama lost...that dumb hicks in the midwest did it because they are dumb and inbred...that the courageous democrats fought the good fight against the evil republicans but Karl Rove and company cheated and corrupted the voting machines...whatever floats your boat. You can continue to tell the voters of the U.S. what dumbasses they are and why they are wrong. It won't win the election. Deny all you want but if you continue to attack, demean, insult the very people you want to persuade then I suggest that your candidate will continue to lose. There is a well known saying in sales...Don't call your customer's baby ugly. You continue to call the americans baby ugly and you will continue to have people vote just to spite you.
Not saying this as a conservative or a liberal, just saying this as someone who understands that politics is sales and the democrats have not been doing a good job selling.

Jim,
even though I don't know you, I just like to convey that I know many who support Bush and the present presidential nominees but keep quiet about it.
Hope you take it to your heart and leave no resentment rules your everyday life.

Has anyone heard whether or not, O'BS has managed to produce an original birth certificate or, a certified copy thereof?

Don

Change, change, change. Everybody wants it or, do they?
If my fellow Americans could tear themselves away from their wide screen HDTV's for a moment and stop buying into the soap operatic BS being fed to them, they'd realize that true change lies in a third party candidate vote.
What could possibly send a louder and clearer message than that!? Neither one of the parties currently battling it out will ever give us a fair shake. I have a friend who's an IT pro and I asked him one time how he would track down a computer virus and eradicate it from an operating system.
He simply told me that he wouldn't waste his time. He'd either do a clean reinstall of the original operating system or, install a different operating system altogether. This man is a computer guru in charge of two full service hospitals and at first I thought he was joking but then I remembered that he doesn't have a sense of humor in the first place. However, if you give his solution more than a casual thought, it makes perfect sense.
Why are we wasting our time and votes on these losers? It's time to wipe the slate clean for real and try a different operating system. Notice how I didn't say better or worse but only different. It should be obvious to anyone reading this, that we can't do a clean reinstall at this point. THESE TWO PARTIES ARE INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM ONE ANOTHER :!: :!: :!:
How can anyone be asked to make a choice between raw excrement or a sour puddle of vomit? Yet, that's exactly what we're being asked to do! The very thought of wasting a vote on one of these four trolls does very bad things to my stomach.
Real change begins with a real change, I'm not saying a third party candidate would be a panacea but we have to begin somewhere.
I'm only one man, with one vote but to effect true change, everyone of like mind needs to act in cohesive unity and I don't think this can be accomplished in a nation so divided.

Don

The very thought of wasting a vote on one of these four trolls does very bad things to my stomach.

sumatra, i'm glad you live in a slate where your vote matters not the slightest.. i also contend that your ravings are as silly as evangelicals who are masturbating over palin because she think's the US is fighting god's war in iraq and because she thinks a 12 year old girl that's raped by her father shouldn't legally be allowed to have an abortion.

jim, politics is selling, correct - but the rest of the world doesn't need to sell americans an american president, and we're well within our rights to look upon your nation and its society with a level of disdain that we might otherwise reserve for any other largely uneducated and uncultured group of individuals.

George Bush really is Satan, if you shaved his head you will find 666. The U.S. is the worst offender in the world and we should bow to the world's public opinion when chosing a president. The communist counties are much better and the U.S. should have pursued communism instead of democracy. The U.S. caused all the wars since it's existence. They have never done anything good..

well if you insist.. :wink:

I beg your forgiveness.

conditionially granted upon your voting for obama.. :)

ct

It also made me groan when I heard Palin associate the current war in Iraq to God...as if it is just, because of that association. God knows how unjust that war is, but if it makes her feel better sending off her son today to fight there, then so be it.

The American invasion of Iraq is the most unjust and horrible act we have ever committed as a country since the Civil War, and by a country that is sworn to the ideology and oaths of each of the three essential documents that form the basis of our country....The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution, and The Bill of Rights.

Have we gone so far backwards that we are ready and willing to re-live the Crusades?

And why are the Islamic people always associated with terrorism, when terrorists methods have been used for centuries, and while Islam is hardly responsible for most terrorist acts of the 20th century? Just Google the King David Hotel for quick introduction as how the Israelis once used terrorism.

Why is it that Americans fear Muslims so much?

Are Americans the most ignorant people on this planet? Are we seriously going to consider electing a Vice President whose claim to fame is that she’s a “hockey mom” and can field dress a moose?

Has the world turned upside down? Have we gone crazy?

Regardless of the outcome November 4, history will record the election year 2008 as the year of “living absurdity”...assuming of course that someone is still alive to record the historical record.

Anyone who watched, and listened to Palin’s first press interview must either be digging a fallout shelter (back to the 50’s) or seriously planning a move to Bali, or OZ...ala, “On The Beach.”

War with Russia over Georgia is NOT an option, but Palin thinks it could be, if Georgia became a NATO member and Russia invaded again. NATO stands for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Has anyone checked lately just how far away from the Atlantic is Georgia?

NATO is a defensive alliance established right after WWII, and during the begining of the cold war against the Soviet Union. Personally, I don’t blame The Russian Federation for getting really “pissed off” about this treaty being used NOW, and in the “new world” AFTER the Soviet Union has been dismantled. Anyone out there care to re-visit the Cuban missile crisis? “Walk a mile in their moccasins” and please...let’s not invite the Russians to a re-match!

Not long ago I used to think that “running amok” was an Indonesian thing. Not anymore!

Running amok is now the Republican song!

Sorry Jim, old friend, but your belly aching just doesn’t “cut it” with me...nor do I know anyone else who I regard and cherish as much as you, and your family, who can possibly defend the Republican ticket. In fact, I am willing at this stage to publicly declare that in my opinion, any American who votes for the Republican ticket this year in the Presidential election is not someone I wish to associate myself.

I say this because in my mind, the choice is very clear...not even close...and I think we all want to see an end to American aggression and a restoration of the country we love as a leader by example, as well as word. That’s what the folks I hold dear also think, and that thinking transcends politics.

BaliLife,
When I stated that I was only one man with one vote, it was an admission that my single vote mattered not. :lol: Did you miss that boy?
Raving? Perhaps you should look this word up, the fact of the matter is that wasting a vote on "Lumpy" McCain or, O'BS will never effect the kind of change this country needs. Whatever line of demarcation that used to exist between the republicans and democrats has long ago been smudged into invisibility. No choice is still no choice when viewed from any perspective.
Including me with self-pleasuring evangelicals and the uneducated masses was a low blow, even for you boy.
So, boy wonder from down under or, Vancouver or, Bali or, wherever you plan to hang your hat next, the only answer you have is O'BS!? Please educate us dumb ass Americans better than this oh "all knowing child of Oz." You know nothing kid. It's easy for you to look down your nose upon us with disdain and stupidly give counsel on how we should vote because you don't have to live with the results MR. NO ALLEGIANCES.
When the time comes, I'll be voting for Ron Paul and as stated previously third party candidates are no panacea but they represent real change something the other two idiots only pay lip service to.