Indo enactment regarding Porn

[smusdar]

Porn Law still being discussing by Indo legislative; pro and contra emerged not only in media, but also in some mailing list --at least the mailing list i joined in.

Trying to qoute some of the articles which stipulated on the draft , I just mention some articled on that law (maybe one of you would like to give any comment ?
art. 25 : it is forbiden for adult to show off of part of "certain" body (should I mention those? or this web site administrator will cencor it :) )
art 28 : eroctic dance / move in public area is banned
art 38 : sport only at sport spot --not in public and open area
art 9 par 2 : it is prohibited to make film/ script/ exploiting sex or related to that
art 27 : kissing (lips) in front of people in public area

[BLI GEDE]

Every day here I see certain bodies that shouldn't be shown in public! :oops:

:shock: People KISSING in PUBLIC!!! God forbid anyone should see that. :roll: Could you imagine the horror of, say, children seeing their parents kiss? ON THE LIPS!? Oh, its too much to bear! please someone pass a law! Anything! Just make them STOP!:lol:

Bli Gede

[Roy]

Smusdar...it's much worse than that!

Within its current form, the draft now being discussed by the central DPR, Indonesia, the wearing of traditional brocade by Balinese women at temple would also be prohibited...as they are partially "see through."

Moreover, and this is worst of all, the legal age would be reduced from what it is currently, at age 18...to 12! TWELVE! Will that mean it's OK to have sex with a minor, but no longer OK...even for tourists, to wear a bikini on any of the beaches in Bali!

The Bali papers have been full of stories about this most outrageous proposed law for many, many weeks...as you can imagine.

My wife chuckles every day reading the Bali Post and Nusa. In one article, a young Balinese women was quoted....”what will they do to my mother? She never wears a top. Will she be off to jail?” Another Balinese wrote...”what to do with our mandi in the river?”

In Bali, no one is supporting this move back into the dark ages. No group in Bali, including all the women’s groups supports it.

I won’t elaborate, but I find this kind of legislative proposal very scary. That it even “hit the floor” of the DPR in Jakarta is really scary. The basis of my fear?...you can figure it out.

[smusdar]

Could you imagine the horror of, say, children seeing their parents kiss? ON THE LIPS!? Oh, its too much to bear! please someone pass a law! Anything! Just make them STOP!

Bli Gede, maybe indo govt just want to say "Get a room please" to them who kissing to hot :D

I have no idea why indo DPR drawn up that LAw, i respect the good faith of them ..to protect indo people from porns magazine, films, because the statisctic of rape increase every year...the worst is: many teenagers commit rape to kids under 10 y.o.

it is very easy for teenagers get porn VCD in jakarta....

FYI we still arguing about playboy plan to launch indo version of Playboy magazine..

[Roy]

Good grief!

I have no idea why indo DPR drawn up that LAw, i respect the good faith of them ..to protect indo people from porns magazine, films, because the statisctic of rape increase every year...the worst is: many teenagers commit rape to kids under 10 y.o.
it is very easy for teenagers get porn VCD in jakarta....
FYI we still arguing about playboy plan to launch indo version of Playboy magazine..

Absolutely, NO COMMENT! :evil: If I carried on with this, I'd likely be deported in a week or so :!:

But...I have to ask...Golly be Smusdar, ever have some fun in Java with Dangdut? :P

Sorry, a bit more based on what your wrote:

the worst is: many teenagers commit rape to kids under 10 y.o.

So, does this mean you're OK with kids being no longer kids (at age 12) under the new law that may come from the DPR of Indonesia? Are YOU NUTS?

Have you read the proposed law, and do you understand it? I highly doubt that your honest answer would be yes, on either count.

[smusdar]

So, does this mean you're OK with kids being no longer kids (at age 12) under the new law that may come from the DPR of Indonesia? Are YOU NUTS?

what ? no, i am not, i am too sad, if i watch news in TV....that's all..

Have you read the proposed law, and do you understand it? I highly doubt that your honest answer would be yes, on either count.

gimme ur email address and i will forward that draft.. of course i understand.. it's written in BAHASA anyway...my mother tounger..notwithstanding my background is law ?? :roll:

[Roy]

No need Smusdar, as I already have the draft, and have for weeks. It's appalling...simply put. Moreover, it will never get the support, in it’s current draft form, from the province of Bali...and of that, you can be sure, your studies in law, not withstanding!

[made marko]

Legislating morality has seldom done any good -anywhere, anytime.
It is very worrisome indeed why the ID gov. may wish to pass legislation with some...I'll say it...'shariah' type laws...
I do not think this law has much of a chance passing, But who knows? North Dakota USA has just made abortion illegal in all cases other than the mother's life being in mortal danger. -An obvious attempt to start the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

[JAMIE]

MADE ..My wife and I where horrorfied to here what North Dakoda did!!! ...as far as what being said in this string all i have to say is ..eeeggadd !!! good luck to all you guys that have to live threw this witch burning in indo ...one question is the forse thats driving these changes a muslum mindset ?

[smusdar]

hi Marko,
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well, i would like to add my previous quote about the law :
there is exception for art. 28 (sprry dont have time to translate it in English..but in it legal, IF it is in line with local tradition..

DIKECUALIKAN untuk (Pasal 36): Cara Berbusana dan/atau Tingkah laku yang menjadi kebiasaan menurut Adat Istiadat dan/atau Budaya Kesukuan, SEPANJANG BERKAITAN DENGAN PELAKSANAAN RITUS KEAGAMAAN ATAU KEPERCAYAAN, Kegiatan Seni, HANYA dapat dilaksanakan di TEMPAT KHUSUS PERTUNJUKAN SENI- YANG MENDAPATKAN IZIN DARI PEMERINTAH (Pasal 37)

Got to work no.. TGI Friday :) [/quote]